Posts by Life is to short 2

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

Life is to short 2

Thank you Landy I find it the same strange way for you also. You have belittled me insulted me, name called me. Told me I was mental.

So your point is?

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this is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".

with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".

recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.

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Hoffnung I saw that happen all the time when I was at Bethel. There would be ome's who really and honestly seemed to believe it was the "truth" who had given up so much to be there and they would be placed in the worst job's, nothing that could ever be used on the outside. Then someone would come in with clear money and they would get the great job's in the air conditioned office's, the white shirts who walked down the hill, they woukd get trained and treated like gold even through they had no experience on the outside at all.

Even through I was honestly a very true believer at the time, the way some of that went down at Bethel it was putting small cracks in my faith.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

Life is to short 2

dubstepped I point well taken, I know I get worked up over Richard and it is very true that what he is saying right now is true. I totally understand that, but the samething can be said about JW's. They have a lot of great point's, some thing's they say are spot on, that's how they get new one's to join.

It's just with Richard and this subject of child molesters in the JW'S he is trying his best to deflect, side rail, train wreck, throw off track, destory, make people lose any hope, anything he can do to make it seen impossible, or in his word's it's an uphill battle, to ever bring any change to have any hope that children in the JW religion might ever be safe.

The point he cannot stop is the newspaper and tv ad's, just if that is all that comes of this, that in and of it's self is HUGE. The elder's who have stood by and just winked at pedophiles holding and taking care of children in there mists will be forever looking over their shoulders wondering if someday the law's will not be on the side of the JW's attorneys and when their time might come. At least RO can't stop that.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

Life is to short 2

Richard send them to the law firm that is running the ad's, come to think of it, you are so brilliant and knowledgeable about everything and everyone eles on this board is an idiot and does not have a clue about law's and how they work only you and Landy do. We all bow to your vast knowledge.

I am surprised that when you called the law firm on Monday they didn't offer you a job on the spot.

Oh right I forgot it's not a true law firm that running the ad's but only a intake dummy sitting in a cubicle seeing what fish it might catch. With your vast knowledge and intelligence you would never stoop to coming out of your parents basement to work for a stupid law firm like that.

I do have to wonder since the law's according to you are totally on the side of the JW's and since you feel that the way they handle the child molesters in the "truth" boy it turns my stomach to call it that, but I understand that you view it that way, but since your post's clearly indicate that you see no problem with the way JW"s, the GB, etc handle child molesters why are you trying to detract one's from these ad's, and $4,000 a day payment.

Unless in your gut you really are worried that your precious Jehovah's Witnesses might truly be in trouble.

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Have you noticed the common practice is to knock indivual's self esteem?

by stuckinarut2 in

in another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.

the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .

Life is to short 2

Also great thread. It was the same for me, even if I found a great call in service I was always told I was to stupid to keep it and another JW would just take itaway from me. I had zero confidence in myself.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

Life is to short 2

Thank you Landy

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

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Yep Landy I am and I am never going to stop anymore than you are, because your going accrose the same threads I am, and you might want to learn to be able to count because it's 3 threads not 20.

Makes me wonder how true your facts and views are being you just embellished this number?

RO now you can rest in peace, it's clearly a stupid law firm that doesn't mean anything, they are just doing a silly what did Landy call it oh I know a "fishing expedition to see if it might throw up anything."

So since this is clearly a stupid law firm who's just chasing money and that it's such a huge long shot, only a uphill battle, now that you have called and realized that this law firm means nothing as as Landy so eloquently says it's a huge long shot. Stop debating us we didn't place the ad's.

And no Landy I am not going to stop posting on these 3 threads anymore than you and all the other poster's who have posted on ALL THREE of them. The last I knew you didn't own this web sight and I have not broken the rules by posting on 3 threads. I see a lot of people posting on more than one, and so your point in getting ticked off at me really seems silly, especially since you are doing the same thing.

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2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

by breakfast of champions in

my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

pretty telling.. .

Life is to short 2

I was just go to say it's Monday the law firm is open for sure, throes who are so sure that this is a waste of time, that it's a uphill battle, that have proof to back up what and why they are saying, instead of debating us over and over and over who can do nothing about it as we didn't place the ad's, Thoes like RO and Landy, now's the time to call, talk to someone who can help you instead of wasting your time with us and getting frustrated because we happen to disagree with you.

And even if your right at least the ad's are making a huge statement in of themselves. Just the fact that the next time a JW calls on someone's door they are going to remember these ad's. Just this publicity is a huge victory in itself.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

Life is to short 2

I am sorry but I respectfully have to disagree with you in that Richard as been correct., he has some points that might taken at face value to be true, but he throws to many scare tactics in.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Landry seriously, you really believe I am serious.

You really think I am an idiot. OK I get that you do not understand what I am doing. Maybe you and Richard can get together and chat, over a cup of tea.

I did call the law firm and told them what is happening in my hall. I did not tell them or read them Richard's post's.

I am being sarcastic to get Richard to stop trying to scare people into believing that this is not going to work.

It's frustrating as I ama victim of abuse to to be a new person reading what what Richard say's could scare someone back to the KH, back to their abouser'.

I am just frustrated that he ueses such insane reasoning.

I guess I just never thought anyone would really take me seriously like you did.

I am just really upset at his scare tactics, as the abuse of children hits home too close to me. Sorry if I went overboard.

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